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you know, it's something that they've been watching with joe biden for years, but joe biden has been preparing for an entire week. by thursday when the debate happens, he will have spent almost a week at his home in wilmington preparing. and when he is prepared, he is much better in that he doesn't make those same gaffes. when he nose what it is that he needs to say and he's not going off the cuff in this style, he does better. >> on thursday, joe biden went aggressively after governor romney on taxes. let's take a look at that. >> you just never know what game or what position governor romney's going to come with. you know, the centerpiece of their economic policy, so far, has been their tax cut. and last night, we found out he doesn't have a $5 trillion tax cut, and i guess he outsourced that to china or something. >> you know, the vice presidential candidate traditionally plays the role of the attack dog. do you think that's what joe biden was doing right there? >> yeah. and joe biden sort of louse an entree into the obama campaign into a group they're most concerned about, which
you know, it's something that they've been watching with joe biden for years, but joe biden has been preparing for an entire week. by thursday when the debate happens, he will have spent almost a week at his home in wilmington preparing. and when he is prepared, he is much better in that he doesn't make those same gaffes. when he nose what it is that he needs to say and he's not going off the cuff in this style, he does better. >> on thursday, joe biden went aggressively after governor...
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. >> do you expect joe biden to be able to make that point or to do anything else that's going to significantly change the democrats' process. >> i do have high hopes for biden. i watched the debates in the 2007-2008 campaign and biden beat both hillary clinton and barack obama in a number of debates. everybody talks about his gaffes and they forget he is a good debatetor and he has a capacity for empathy for average people. and he can just explain stuff quite well. so i think he will put ryan on the griddle and take the interview with chris wallace and say look, you've got time. you said the math is too complicated. don't give us talk about base lines. tell us how you're going to do this. >> e.j., thanks for being here. i appreciate it. >> good to be with you. >>> up next, the grave international implications of having people in our american congress who hold elaborate conspiracy theories about dinosaur farts. sorry. that's next. seriously. >>> this time every year it's the same good news, bad news, high-low kind of feeling. it's the day we learn there are super smart people in the world winni
. >> do you expect joe biden to be able to make that point or to do anything else that's going to significantly change the democrats' process. >> i do have high hopes for biden. i watched the debates in the 2007-2008 campaign and biden beat both hillary clinton and barack obama in a number of debates. everybody talks about his gaffes and they forget he is a good debatetor and he has a capacity for empathy for average people. and he can just explain stuff quite well. so i think he...
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you know, barack obama was asked what should joe biden do, he said, well, joe just needs to be joe. well, joe was definitely joe. >> that's what his son said on the show last night. >> he did what barack obama said he should do. i think that broadly you're exactly right, chris, which is the democratic base wanted this. they like that joe biden. they don't care that, oh, well, he was disparaging. they don't care about any of that stuff related to paul ryan. they like the laughing and smiling. they think what paul ryan is saying is fundamentally wrong and ludicrous. the republican base doesn't like joe biden going in. they're not going to like joe biden going out. it doesn't change the race in any way, shape, or form. i don't want to sound too cynical, my guess is most people who remain undecided at this point probably were watching some combination of orioles/yankees, nfl, something else. >> we'll see. here is what john dickerson wrote in slate today about the vice president performance. biden was defending the middle class while ryan was defending romney. biden's greatest asset was
you know, barack obama was asked what should joe biden do, he said, well, joe just needs to be joe. well, joe was definitely joe. >> that's what his son said on the show last night. >> he did what barack obama said he should do. i think that broadly you're exactly right, chris, which is the democratic base wanted this. they like that joe biden. they don't care that, oh, well, he was disparaging. they don't care about any of that stuff related to paul ryan. they like the laughing and...
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first to you, michael, you know joe biden really well. what is the challenge here for joe biden? we know that sometimes when he gets wound up on the stump he goes off message. but as maggie was saying earlier, in debates he's been really focused. is that the joe biden you expect to show up tonight? >> i do. i expect joe biden to show up tonight to try to prevent congressman ryan from wiley mischaracter iing the record the obama/biden record over last four years and try to hold congressman wryan to specifics. congressman ryan will have to reconcile his own budget plan and the rapidly evolving romney/ryan budget and tax plan. a lot of open questions there. i expect vice president biden's going to come out ready to hold his feet to the fire on specifics. and congressman ryan has other challenges, you know? he's not well-known on the national stage, so this will be a new introduction for him. and he has to pass the commander in chief threshold so there will be foreign policy questions tonight. he'll have to hold his own there. he also has to energize conservatives but also appeal to
first to you, michael, you know joe biden really well. what is the challenge here for joe biden? we know that sometimes when he gets wound up on the stump he goes off message. but as maggie was saying earlier, in debates he's been really focused. is that the joe biden you expect to show up tonight? >> i do. i expect joe biden to show up tonight to try to prevent congressman ryan from wiley mischaracter iing the record the obama/biden record over last four years and try to hold congressman...
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>> be yourself, joe. joe biden is, you know, a genuine person, down to earth person, known him 30 years, he has great political instincts and i think one of the things that happens in these debates is if you overthink it, get overhandled and not yourself the public can see that. i would tell joseph biden be yourself. you're very good at this. >> thank you very much. chuck schumer, thanks for being with us. >> nice to be on your show. >> it's our pleasure. and up next, it's all about ohio and paul ryan the battle for the bluegrass state. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. i have a cold... i took dayquil, but i still have a runny nose. [ male announcer ] dayquil doesn't treat that. huh? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus rushes relief to all your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ sighs ] thank you! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! yes, you do! don't! do! whoa, kitchen counselor here. see cascade complete pacs work like micro-scrubbing b
>> be yourself, joe. joe biden is, you know, a genuine person, down to earth person, known him 30 years, he has great political instincts and i think one of the things that happens in these debates is if you overthink it, get overhandled and not yourself the public can see that. i would tell joseph biden be yourself. you're very good at this. >> thank you very much. chuck schumer, thanks for being with us. >> nice to be on your show. >> it's our pleasure. and up next,...
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i want to go to joe about the other joe last night. joe was active, exciting, overexcited perhaps, laughed a lot, perhaps laughed to ridicule and maybe the ridicule was appropriate. putting it all together, do you agree with me he won? >> oh, yeah, i think he won. i think he gave the other side some talking points with all of his smirking and laughing and so on, although i imagine if you're in the reality-based world, it's kind of tough to just sit there and pout while the guy is, you know -- >> well said. >> -- quoting whoppers. >> what are you supposed to do in this crazy split screen world? what are you supposed to do with your face when the guy three feet from you is saying thins you think are dead wrong? are you supposed to look down like the president did? and he was dumped o on for that. or do you look up with a jolly face? >> or seriously take notes and shake your head in a disparaging way, but it should be smaller whatever it is than what joe was doing. joe was doing last night. although as he would say, god bless him, i love
i want to go to joe about the other joe last night. joe was active, exciting, overexcited perhaps, laughed a lot, perhaps laughed to ridicule and maybe the ridicule was appropriate. putting it all together, do you agree with me he won? >> oh, yeah, i think he won. i think he gave the other side some talking points with all of his smirking and laughing and so on, although i imagine if you're in the reality-based world, it's kind of tough to just sit there and pout while the guy is, you...
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welcome back to "morning joe." you love him. >> i love him. >> come o-tina. >> that's like a jam session he does when he gets up there. at the convention he got up and jammed and it was absolute magic. >> you can see the editor and chief of "newsweek" magazine and "the daily beast," tina brown and in washington host of ""the daily rundown"," chuck todd. >> did he jump up and down? >> yes, he did. >> we need to let presidents run for two feterms. i want him back to the campaign tram. >> let him run. he should be the permanent campaigner. i think that we know. >> he really should. >> he loved it it. >> the more obama and the better clinton gets. >> what do you think? what are you trying to say, tina? >> he's enjoying it. >> right now he's having a ball, because this is where he thrives and what he knows how to do better than anyone. >> the sweet spot. >> we begin this hour with the fight for the battleground states. less than four weeks until election day in ohio where 18 electoral votes are up for grabs. a new cnn p
welcome back to "morning joe." you love him. >> i love him. >> come o-tina. >> that's like a jam session he does when he gets up there. at the convention he got up and jammed and it was absolute magic. >> you can see the editor and chief of "newsweek" magazine and "the daily beast," tina brown and in washington host of ""the daily rundown"," chuck todd. >> did he jump up and down? >> yes, he did. >> we...
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where joe biden and paul ryan will meet. krystal ball is heading there after the show today and will be there live for us tomorrow. the face-off is stark differences of the two men on display. ryan fancies himself a numbers guy, of course. biden is beloved for feared for saying what he thinks and then the generation gap between the two. think of it this way. when biden was elected in 2002, r -- ryan wasn't -- >> i don't know how paul will deal with this debate. obviously, the vice president has done, i don't know, 15 or 20 debates during his lifetime. experienced debater. this is, i think paul's first debate. he may have done something in high school. i don't know. >> so amusing. >> we always joke about saying the bar is load for your own side. that might be the lowest. my own thoughts heading in to this, i have been saying, you know, all week that i just basically expect biden to turn in the performance that obama did not turn in. >> sure. >> do not miss the openings that obama missed going after the missing details of romn
where joe biden and paul ryan will meet. krystal ball is heading there after the show today and will be there live for us tomorrow. the face-off is stark differences of the two men on display. ryan fancies himself a numbers guy, of course. biden is beloved for feared for saying what he thinks and then the generation gap between the two. think of it this way. when biden was elected in 2002, r -- ryan wasn't -- >> i don't know how paul will deal with this debate. obviously, the vice...
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joe biden has the opportunity to tell the truth. what mitt romney will do to the middle class in this country. had this may not be a make or break moment for the president and his campaign, but you have to agree that it is a chance for the vice president of the united states to change the tone and the focus of this campaign. not a game-changer, but a course correction. people that i spoke with on friday in ohio were disappointed in the president's debate performance. it's ironic that the same attitude was portrayed on two different locations at memorial university today and also florida international university. people are puzzled why the president didn't come out strong. they were expecting more. comments came to me like we're out fighting for the president, fighting for every vote, and the other night it didn't look like he was fighting for us. what does this mean? it means every stump speech is going to be recorded and reviewed over and over again. this means that the american people are digesting who wants to be president of the
joe biden has the opportunity to tell the truth. what mitt romney will do to the middle class in this country. had this may not be a make or break moment for the president and his campaign, but you have to agree that it is a chance for the vice president of the united states to change the tone and the focus of this campaign. not a game-changer, but a course correction. people that i spoke with on friday in ohio were disappointed in the president's debate performance. it's ironic that the same...
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with me now, steve almendorf and republican strategist, joe watkins. >> joe, let me start with you. have the campaigns entered the new phase like "the wall street journal" suggests? are we in closing argument time? if so, what does it mean for both of these campaigns? >> we are in closing argument time, that's not much time left. both campaigns have to work hard to get their message out to voters, what's important for mitt romney, as well as for president obama is getting the folks that are likely to vote for him to show up at the polls and vote on election day, you've got to make sure that the likely voters are the ones that gets the out that you want to get out. >> one of the commercials at the journal predicted the romney campaign out with a new ad highlighting vice president biden's behavior in that debate. >> don't raise taxes on small businesses because they're our job creators, leaders run to problems to fix problems. >> the romney campaign betting on independent voters not liking biden's laughter there. is the jury still out on this thing, steve. >> i think the jury is done,
with me now, steve almendorf and republican strategist, joe watkins. >> joe, let me start with you. have the campaigns entered the new phase like "the wall street journal" suggests? are we in closing argument time? if so, what does it mean for both of these campaigns? >> we are in closing argument time, that's not much time left. both campaigns have to work hard to get their message out to voters, what's important for mitt romney, as well as for president obama is getting...
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i would agree with tamron of course joe has to be joe. i would quibble with the extent he's had these blunders. some of these things i wouldn't count as the same kind of gaffes or blunders as we've seen from political candidates. his one blunter of being sometimes a little too enfouss a tick will play well because the stage has been set here for this campaign to make a really, you know, sort of powerful haymaker. so biden is the best person to be at-bat right now. >> tamron, i want to show you some images of paul ryan. i hope you will be able to see these. these are from a "time" magazine photo shoot in december of last year that were just published today and they have taken on a life of their own. this photo started floating around facebook and twitter after people commented how the photos made him look like a cast member of the 1990s show "saved by the bell" and our own team drew the line between ryan and the character goober from "the andy griffith show." i guess image management will be paramount for paul ryan because he's not as well
i would agree with tamron of course joe has to be joe. i would quibble with the extent he's had these blunders. some of these things i wouldn't count as the same kind of gaffes or blunders as we've seen from political candidates. his one blunter of being sometimes a little too enfouss a tick will play well because the stage has been set here for this campaign to make a really, you know, sort of powerful haymaker. so biden is the best person to be at-bat right now. >> tamron, i want to...
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and joe's here. >> i'm here. we have some new polls out. >> yes, we do. >> a big movement, and the polls, let's talk first about what i think is going to be one of the great, great series that we've had in a while. and that's the red sox and the orioles -- i mean the yankees and the orioles. oh, wait, i'm sorry. the red sox right now. >> are you trying to alienate everybody? >> so we've got two big yankee fans here. but the yankees and the orioles. you've got, you know, you've got the empire, the great team, plus -- against the upstarts. this one's going to go a while. >> can't go more than five games. >> well, that's a while. if you're a yankees fan. i get nothing from richard haass, so willie. richard, you suck. >> no. >> willie, i'm excited about this stuff. >> go to the ichiro play. >> this is just a great david versus goliath contest. >> i'd say this is a yankee fan, it's hard not to love the orioles and their story. what they've done this year. these are usually the kinds of teams that go away after the all
and joe's here. >> i'm here. we have some new polls out. >> yes, we do. >> a big movement, and the polls, let's talk first about what i think is going to be one of the great, great series that we've had in a while. and that's the red sox and the orioles -- i mean the yankees and the orioles. oh, wait, i'm sorry. the red sox right now. >> are you trying to alienate everybody? >> so we've got two big yankee fans here. but the yankees and the orioles. you've got, you...
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do you expect joe biden to come out swinging? >> i do. i mean, i think -- first of all, i think he's a pretty good debater. doing it for a long time. he's relatible, quick on his feet and likable. >> you're not playing the expectations game, are you? >> no, i just -- no. i think it's silly of us to discount joe biden making gaffes as of late. but what i would say is i think it's important. i think joe biden will come out and try to make up ground for barack obama and we'll see how it plays out. paul's a smart guy and will do well. >> good to have you on the program. thanks so much. >> thanks, chris. >>> speaking of debate, gentlemen, i have a clip of "saturday night live" i have to play. watch. >> is there anything more exciting than joe biden thinking it's up to him to get the lead back? it's tivo time. a 50% chance he'll come out with the shirt off. probably covering himself with animal fat to make himself harder to grab. >> i watched that like four times over the week. kept playing it back and forth and back and forth. i thought it was
do you expect joe biden to come out swinging? >> i do. i mean, i think -- first of all, i think he's a pretty good debater. doing it for a long time. he's relatible, quick on his feet and likable. >> you're not playing the expectations game, are you? >> no, i just -- no. i think it's silly of us to discount joe biden making gaffes as of late. but what i would say is i think it's important. i think joe biden will come out and try to make up ground for barack obama and we'll see...
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when joe biden was a vp candidate in 2008 he wasn't well defined. now he has a larger than life persona to live up to. so does ryan. >> joe biden had a reputation in congress. >> now he's in the onion. >> steve schmidt says there is no sympathetic character up there with biden this time which is to say there is no sarah palin. biden will bring his proverbial none chucks and brass knuckles. >> i think literally. >> there was a lot of talk about the gender dynamics and how biden couldn't go on the attack. paul ryan is a young dude but has a congressional record he's basically semi sort of or not at all running on depending on the day. we know joe bind has a copy of "young guns". >> do you think he's reading it? >> i do. >> you have someone who's risen up through the ranks of the policy wong wonkery on the right and someone with a natural feel with people. it will be great to see those police station come through head to head, especially when it comes to paul ryan and mitt romney's budget plans. for seniors that single group joe biden can reach no one
when joe biden was a vp candidate in 2008 he wasn't well defined. now he has a larger than life persona to live up to. so does ryan. >> joe biden had a reputation in congress. >> now he's in the onion. >> steve schmidt says there is no sympathetic character up there with biden this time which is to say there is no sarah palin. biden will bring his proverbial none chucks and brass knuckles. >> i think literally. >> there was a lot of talk about the gender dynamics...
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i think this is teed up perfectly for joe biden. all the things we talked about last week we wished the president might have thrown at mitt romney or asked mitt romney about are even better for ryan. it was paul ryan who was confronted with chris wallace asking him about the math of the budget plan, was the one who said i just don't have time to get into that. joe biden can say, i'd like to give you all the time you need, take all the time you need, congressman ryan, and tell us which deductions you two are going to close. he can confront him on the $716 billion that he also likewise cuts from medicare. >> identical number. >> identical number. that's a wonderful thing to be teed up for vice president biden, and he can also just come at him on the issue of entitlements generally. paul ryan is somebody who apparently saved the survivor benefits that he got from social security, used tm to go to a good college, and now has been a long-time advocate of privatizing social security. >> i just wish joe biden would at some point ask the qu
i think this is teed up perfectly for joe biden. all the things we talked about last week we wished the president might have thrown at mitt romney or asked mitt romney about are even better for ryan. it was paul ryan who was confronted with chris wallace asking him about the math of the budget plan, was the one who said i just don't have time to get into that. joe biden can say, i'd like to give you all the time you need, take all the time you need, congressman ryan, and tell us which...
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the president is not joe biden. you know, he's not going to be that demonstrative but certainly we can expect him to be more aggressive. he leaves tomorrow morning for another debate camp, training camp, if you will, three days in another swing state. he's not going to be far away, in williamsburg, virginia, and he'll go directly from there to the debate next tuesday night. what white house officials will only say about how any adjustments that the president is making last night on the plane, a senior official telling reporters governor romney is trying to hide a variety of his positions and we're going to make sure the american people understand what he would actually do if he's president, martin. >> good luck with that. nbc's mike viqueira. thank you, as always. stay with us. the week's "top lines" are coming up. go! here it comes! right in the numbers. boom! get it! spin! oh nice hands! thank you, as always. my favor! oh! [ male announcer ] share what you love, with who you love. kellogg's frosted flakes. they're
the president is not joe biden. you know, he's not going to be that demonstrative but certainly we can expect him to be more aggressive. he leaves tomorrow morning for another debate camp, training camp, if you will, three days in another swing state. he's not going to be far away, in williamsburg, virginia, and he'll go directly from there to the debate next tuesday night. what white house officials will only say about how any adjustments that the president is making last night on the plane, a...
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you know, barack obama was asked what should joe biden do, he said, well, joe just needs to be joe. well, joe was definitely joe. >> that's what his son said on the show last night. >> he did what barack obama said he should do. i think that broadly you're exactly right, chris, which is the democratic base wanted this. they like that joe biden. they don't care that, oh, well, he was disparaging. they don't care about any of that stuff related to paul ryan. they like the laughing and smiling. the republican base doesn't like joe biden going in. they're not going to like joe biden going out. it doesn't change the race in any way, shape, or form. i don't want to sound too cynical, my guess is most people who remain undecided at this point probably were watching some combination of orioles/yankees, nfl, something else. >> we'll see. here is what john dickerson wrote today about the vice president performance. biden was defending the middle class while ryan was defending romney. biden's greatest asset was his, though he might have been over the top. . it was possible for a viewer to conc
you know, barack obama was asked what should joe biden do, he said, well, joe just needs to be joe. well, joe was definitely joe. >> that's what his son said on the show last night. >> he did what barack obama said he should do. i think that broadly you're exactly right, chris, which is the democratic base wanted this. they like that joe biden. they don't care that, oh, well, he was disparaging. they don't care about any of that stuff related to paul ryan. they like the laughing and...
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watch out, uncle joe. actually, "time" magazine released these photos today showing congressman ryan pumping iron last december, not exactly the images he wants out the night before he needs to prove that he's ready to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. ryan's workout routine probably won't come up tonight but his macho vision for the country will and it should. ryan and romney are pushing a radical remaking of the social contract that americans have relied on for many decades. it's a investigation that includes a budget where 62% of the cuts come from the poor. cuts to medicaid, cuts to food stamps, pell grants, all while cuts to the defense department and oil industry continue as usual. ryan will have to defend that record tonight and he'll have to defend comments like these. >> before too long we could become a society that we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the majority of americans are makers, not takers. they believe the american idea. only 30% want the welfare
watch out, uncle joe. actually, "time" magazine released these photos today showing congressman ryan pumping iron last december, not exactly the images he wants out the night before he needs to prove that he's ready to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. ryan's workout routine probably won't come up tonight but his macho vision for the country will and it should. ryan and romney are pushing a radical remaking of the social contract that americans have relied on for many decades....
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the problem is joe biden is a good debater. a six-term u.s. senator, the sixth youngestist senator ever elected to the body. vice president in 2008 largely on the strength of his debating performances. not like he won a bunch of primary and a funny thing happens with joe biden in between where people got this onion inflected impression of him as a guy washing his transam in the white house parking lot and what biden is about at and what he is unable to counter is he wields authority well. i have known bb for 35 years. i was best friends and in the room and that for a guy that looks even younger than he is like ryan was devastating. >> let's listen to joe biden talking about romney's 47%. >> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. 82% of them pay their payroll taxes and other taxes and at an effective rate higher than romney pays his taxes. over 10% of them are senior citizens on social security. the rest are disabled vets and veterans and military personnel fighting now. that's the
the problem is joe biden is a good debater. a six-term u.s. senator, the sixth youngestist senator ever elected to the body. vice president in 2008 largely on the strength of his debating performances. not like he won a bunch of primary and a funny thing happens with joe biden in between where people got this onion inflected impression of him as a guy washing his transam in the white house parking lot and what biden is about at and what he is unable to counter is he wields authority well. i...
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joe biden won 51-30. he dominated the guy. i think he offered him an internship after it was all over. the fact of the matter is he dominated him. people can talk about joe biden. but what i think people like about him is he's authentic. the one thing about joe biden is you believe what he was telling you. the only thing we really know about mitt romney, this unchanging, is that he wants to be president of the united states of america. at a time when people are craving authenticity, i think joe biden delivered for the president. i think he activated the democratic base. and i think you'll see it in this week's numbers. >> governor, what do you think we learned about paul ryan? >> well, let me first say joe biden is authentic. and last week he said two important things to every voter. one, that the middle class has been buried during the last four years. of course, he's been in charge the last four years. number two, that absolutely obama and biden are going to raise your taxes about $2 trillion over the next four years. so wha
joe biden won 51-30. he dominated the guy. i think he offered him an internship after it was all over. the fact of the matter is he dominated him. people can talk about joe biden. but what i think people like about him is he's authentic. the one thing about joe biden is you believe what he was telling you. the only thing we really know about mitt romney, this unchanging, is that he wants to be president of the united states of america. at a time when people are craving authenticity, i think joe...
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people who thought that joe biden was kind of a rude guy before the debate, they still think. that reinforced it. do you really think that the 17 undecided voters left in iowa or ohio who saw that debate and went that joe biden, man, he sure is mean. i'm not voting for him. >> it probably didn't have a great impact. actually, i do think the debates have mattered an awful lot. "new york times" today nate silver, hardly a conservative reporting that really the race has taken a very different trajectory. that bounce after the first debate is continuing on. there has been about a four or five-point shift in the race following that debate. i don't think like some people on the right that that is permanent or that that is a lock. but the race changed fundamentally after that debate. and the president's job next tuesday is see if he can change it back. >> kevin, what does the president to v to do on tuesday to do that? >> the president has to decide if he still wants to be president. i mean that bizarre performance. >> he needs the fire in the belly. >> that bizarre performance signa
people who thought that joe biden was kind of a rude guy before the debate, they still think. that reinforced it. do you really think that the 17 undecided voters left in iowa or ohio who saw that debate and went that joe biden, man, he sure is mean. i'm not voting for him. >> it probably didn't have a great impact. actually, i do think the debates have mattered an awful lot. "new york times" today nate silver, hardly a conservative reporting that really the race has taken a...
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>> first of all, joe is joe. i think he was in complete command, overwhelming in terms of experience. yes, he smiled a little more often and that's what happens when you really believe that it's noncompetitive and it shouldn't happen. and paul ryan put in a better performance than most people, including me ever, ever expected. >> do you think biden went too far though? >> no, of course not. i think after anyone analyzes this, and i'm concerned about the public's wanting to know what the facts are. facts have anything to do with it, biden was completely in charge of it because paul ryan has been running away from this budget, the republican party has, romney has, and he really believes in what he is saying is the only thing he's done in congress. he truly believes in the numbers and cannot get his own party to explain how is this thing going to balance out? joe made it abundantly clear, if you're going to cut taxes and raise money to do it, what are you cutting? he didn't do that. on the question of vouchers in te
>> first of all, joe is joe. i think he was in complete command, overwhelming in terms of experience. yes, he smiled a little more often and that's what happens when you really believe that it's noncompetitive and it shouldn't happen. and paul ryan put in a better performance than most people, including me ever, ever expected. >> do you think biden went too far though? >> no, of course not. i think after anyone analyzes this, and i'm concerned about the public's wanting to...
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in some ways i think with joe biden and paul ryan it's going to be an even more damaging conversation if ryan has to obviscate and come up with specifics because he's the numbers guy. >> he's going to be prepared. we'll be prepared. >> he doesn't have enough time it to answer the question, but going back to the theme of the day, what matters, the economy always matters. ever since the cold war it's been about the economy with the possible exception of '04, right? we're in the war of terrorism. >> even in '04 the exit polls showed that even though it was a foreign policy election, it was still about the economy. >> it's always about the economy. foreign policy is at best second or third most important. once again this foreign policy forray into mitt romney it may be a couple days lost. he's not talking about the economy on an area where i think it's impossible to catch up to barack obama. >> i do take the point that he needs to give a speech like this. it's necessary if you're running for president. it's not necessarily sufficient to win the presidency, but it's necessary that you do i
in some ways i think with joe biden and paul ryan it's going to be an even more damaging conversation if ryan has to obviscate and come up with specifics because he's the numbers guy. >> he's going to be prepared. we'll be prepared. >> he doesn't have enough time it to answer the question, but going back to the theme of the day, what matters, the economy always matters. ever since the cold war it's been about the economy with the possible exception of '04, right? we're in the war of...
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joe will have that enthusiasm. he'll convey to the american person what this administration has done pulling us out of the brink of financial collapse, advancing the ball on health care and doing so many good things. a foreign policy record to be proud of. i think joe will sing that song loud and clear. >> i couldn't help but think about what you describe as your expectations of vice president biden. the title of your book, basically no wuss, he can't give the slightly bit he's taking it easy on the young gun. i told my team it's like the young maverick versus the og, which i'll explain later what that means. you've got joe biden here. he's seen it and done it all. he has survived both personality tragedies and seen the ups and downs of the beltway when people used to perhaps have lunch with each other and talk over things to where we are now, it where it's a decisive tone that can be scary, governor rendell, to people voting. >> i think joe biden will do one other thing the president didn't do. if paul ryan strays
joe will have that enthusiasm. he'll convey to the american person what this administration has done pulling us out of the brink of financial collapse, advancing the ball on health care and doing so many good things. a foreign policy record to be proud of. i think joe will sing that song loud and clear. >> i couldn't help but think about what you describe as your expectations of vice president biden. the title of your book, basically no wuss, he can't give the slightly bit he's taking it...
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joe biden's preps are being led by obama's senior campaign adviser, david axelrod. the vice president has been reviewing ryan's speeches. he's reading "young guns," the book that ryan co-wrote. he's done at least three mock debates. paul ryan has been watching tapes of biden's previous debate appearances and rehearsing for what is likely to be a major offensive. >> i really think that, you know, because they had such a bad debate, that joe is just going to come flying at us. and it seems pretty clear that their new strategy is basically just call us liars. >> i'm joined now by the former communications director for the edwards presidential campaign and robert train yam, an msnbc contributor and bush/cheney adviser. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> we know both men have been hunkered down preparing for this debate. in these closing days, chris what do they do? >> this debate has kind of gained more significance because of the last debate. >> yeah. >> i would actually say significances for both candidates, because romney's campaign cle
joe biden's preps are being led by obama's senior campaign adviser, david axelrod. the vice president has been reviewing ryan's speeches. he's reading "young guns," the book that ryan co-wrote. he's done at least three mock debates. paul ryan has been watching tapes of biden's previous debate appearances and rehearsing for what is likely to be a major offensive. >> i really think that, you know, because they had such a bad debate, that joe is just going to come flying at us. and...
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went on offense against paul ryan. >> joe was definitely joe. >> it's about time they take some responsibility here. >> i'm not into man fights. >> mr. ryan said last night to governor romney was a car guy. well, if they had an elevator stack i guess he was. >> today the campaigning continues the post debate campaigning has already kicked into high gear. >> we're going to level the playing field. it's time to acknowledge what got us into this trouble in the first place. >> the vice president defends the status quo. >> that's a bunch of ma larky. the. >> paul ryan care about each and every american. >> stop caring about how you care about people. show me something. >> the table is now reset. >> with the v.p. debate now over. >> who gets to hit the panic button next? >> with 25 days until the presidential election, the obama re-election campaign is seizing on this statement by paul ryan in last night's debate. >> if the romney/ryan ticket is elected, should those who believe that abortion should remain legal be worried? >> we don't think that unelected judges should make this decision, that peop
went on offense against paul ryan. >> joe was definitely joe. >> it's about time they take some responsibility here. >> i'm not into man fights. >> mr. ryan said last night to governor romney was a car guy. well, if they had an elevator stack i guess he was. >> today the campaigning continues the post debate campaigning has already kicked into high gear. >> we're going to level the playing field. it's time to acknowledge what got us into this trouble in the...
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joe biden has too. of course, congressman paul ryan who chairs the house budget committee also likes to tout his foreign policy chops. >> i have more foreign policy experience coming into this job than president obama did coming into his. >> can you explain how do you have more foreign policy experience than senator obama did. he was on the foreign relations committee. >> norah, i voted to send men and women to war. i've been to iraq and afghanistan. i've met with our troops to get perspectives. i've been to the funerals, i've talked to the widows, talked to the wives, the moms and the dads. that's something. that matters. >> yeah. the sitting vice president shouldn't have much problem landing a blow on a claim like that. though perhaps rather than boxing, it's more accurate to think of thursday night as tag team wrestling with each candidate making the power move that their partner missed. of course, ultimately a vice presidential candidate's relationship to his running mate is more like hulk hogan's b
joe biden has too. of course, congressman paul ryan who chairs the house budget committee also likes to tout his foreign policy chops. >> i have more foreign policy experience coming into this job than president obama did coming into his. >> can you explain how do you have more foreign policy experience than senator obama did. he was on the foreign relations committee. >> norah, i voted to send men and women to war. i've been to iraq and afghanistan. i've met with our troops...
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joe? >> well, of course i mean vice president biden is very, very good on his feet, very quick on his feet. i think it was a very strong performance on his part. i think paul ryan did a great job also. but vice president biden is very strong. >> karen, let's talk about all that smiling and interrupting. your unvarnished take. do you wish the vice president had backed off even a little? because then we wouldn't even be talking about his style. >> the only reason we're talking about his style is because the republicans can't seem to take a punch. last week when our guy didn't do so well we took hit. we admitted it and we moved on. this week when it was a commanding performance for romney, all of a sudden joe biden is being rude. frankly, there were so many moments where biden could have further corrected paul on a marathon runner ryan, come on, this guy was so fast and loose with the facts. marine guards, as an example. they are there to guard information. it has nothing to do with the secur
joe? >> well, of course i mean vice president biden is very, very good on his feet, very quick on his feet. i think it was a very strong performance on his part. i think paul ryan did a great job also. but vice president biden is very strong. >> karen, let's talk about all that smiling and interrupting. your unvarnished take. do you wish the vice president had backed off even a little? because then we wouldn't even be talking about his style. >> the only reason we're talking...
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joe biden has done a lot of debates. by my count, 749. no, closer to 23, but he did 14 in the last year, in 2008 alone. >> yes. >> on the other hand, he's also been vice president for the last four years. i think everyone knows that vice president's don't really get pressed a lot in those four years, you know, when something goes wrong. when something goes wrong, give me the vice president i have some serious questions for him. so i'm wondering if you think the four years of not really having to answer too many tough questions makes him a little rusty despite his years of debate experience? >> well, it made the president rusty. i think it could do the same to joe biden. although he has been working very hard. at the convention he had put in 60 hours of debate prep. what he's been paid for for the last four years comes down to this moment tonight. biden, his mind is not an orderly one all the time, shall we say, but he's -- but he'll be tough. he's going to be defending an entire tradition and history of the democratic party because really
joe biden has done a lot of debates. by my count, 749. no, closer to 23, but he did 14 in the last year, in 2008 alone. >> yes. >> on the other hand, he's also been vice president for the last four years. i think everyone knows that vice president's don't really get pressed a lot in those four years, you know, when something goes wrong. when something goes wrong, give me the vice president i have some serious questions for him. so i'm wondering if you think the four years of not...
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joe, you seem to be skeptical. >> absolutely wrong. the basic thing is we all knew the direction in which these new regulations would go. those directions are we don't want the toxic mortgages that we had. we don't want the liar loans. those were the things thatot us into trouble that required a government bailout. sure there's going to be some fine tuning, but the banks went back to responsible lending where they give a loan, they keep skin in the game. we all know that's the direction we want to go. that's the direction the banks should want to go if they were going to rely on no bailout. >> right. >> the biggest problem with dodd-frank, the real critique from the conservative view is too big to fail. it enshrines too big to fail. i understand there's regulations around how they manage their businesses which they don't like, but at the other end of the spectrum they have a competitive advantage around small businesses. >> enshrined is a weird word. you can't say it enshrines it unless there's an alternative to getting rid of it. ther
joe, you seem to be skeptical. >> absolutely wrong. the basic thing is we all knew the direction in which these new regulations would go. those directions are we don't want the toxic mortgages that we had. we don't want the liar loans. those were the things thatot us into trouble that required a government bailout. sure there's going to be some fine tuning, but the banks went back to responsible lending where they give a loan, they keep skin in the game. we all know that's the direction...
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joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. >>> welcome back to the ed show. president obama has a new and surprisingly popular political ally. and his name is big bird. on the campaign trail today the president continued to hammer mitt romney for his pledge to cut federal funding to pbs as a means to cut spending and reduce the debt. >> governor plans to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the hammer down on "sesame street." it makes perfect sense. >> the president understands main street is a fan of "sesame street." in fact, a 2008 survey found that 77 million americans watched the show as children. kind of an american institution. and children who frequently view "sesame street" as preschoolers have high school grade point averages. almost 1
joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. >>> welcome back to the ed show. president obama has a new and surprisingly popular political ally. and his...
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but i think joe biden and paul ryan might be very evenly matched because of course joe biden was in the senate for 36 years, because he knows the federal government inside and out. and paul ryan jokes how he has been reading federal budget since he was 22 years old. so they both will have a lot of data, obviously coming at it have different perspectives, but i think they will be very well matched. >> thank you both so much. and back to the white house, mike with a good sunday to you. >> hi, alex. >> let's check out the president's schedule, what does it look like? >> well, he left a very rainy office, and is on his way to california. whenever a democratic president goes to california, that is usually to raise money. and indeed, the president has several fundraisers scheduled in california, in los angeles, including at the nokia center, with jennifer hudson, and katy perry, friends tell me she is pretty cool. he goes on to san francisco, california, for more fundraising in between, and he will be there for a dedication of the national monument, to caesar chavez, a hero. and let me check
but i think joe biden and paul ryan might be very evenly matched because of course joe biden was in the senate for 36 years, because he knows the federal government inside and out. and paul ryan jokes how he has been reading federal budget since he was 22 years old. so they both will have a lot of data, obviously coming at it have different perspectives, but i think they will be very well matched. >> thank you both so much. and back to the white house, mike with a good sunday to you....
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there's a classic joe being joe. and if you didn't like him and joe shtick wears on you, then you hated some of the moments that he had last night. but what are we talking about? this was joe biden's debate. paul ryan was at it, but this was biden's debate. he sort of controlled the debate for better or for worse at times for him. that was important. and joe, i'm with you on this. that's a big deal to the obama campaign. they couldn't go down 0-2, to be cliche about this in baseball, they couldn't afford to lose game two of this four-game series of debates. and they didn't lose game two. we can argue, was it a full win for biden? did he give away some points in this because of style because he was a little too amped up on red bull for the first 45 minutes of this thing? maybe. but they certainly -- you can't say he lost the debate. it's all about next tuesday anyway. and biden's job was to make sure he didn't -- i mean, put it this way. had ryan clobbered biden a la what romney did to obama, boy, it would be -- imagi
there's a classic joe being joe. and if you didn't like him and joe shtick wears on you, then you hated some of the moments that he had last night. but what are we talking about? this was joe biden's debate. paul ryan was at it, but this was biden's debate. he sort of controlled the debate for better or for worse at times for him. that was important. and joe, i'm with you on this. that's a big deal to the obama campaign. they couldn't go down 0-2, to be cliche about this in baseball, they...
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the -- joe biden can't respond to this in one particular way. there's a lot of reports kind of trickling out that this might already be happening. >> right. right. joe biden can't exactly say, you know, that's what we're doing in a kind of stage whisper. but, you know, the policy, it is very, very difficult to see this sort of bloodshed, to watch this front line documentary. what that underscored, which i think is a very important point, is something after 9/11 when people were talking about occupying countries as if it was germany and japan in 1945, you see the complexities not only of syria, libya, etc. not only do we not know who these fighters are but we understand and everyone acknowledges this, it's about how big this is, that salofus are coming in and they're fighting with sort of more democratic reformers. is there somebody that has a booth with ak 47s on it. tell me about your ideology. that doesn't happen. that's going to be hugely problematic. >> one of the other things we're seeing in syria is incredibly messy, there's been great rep
the -- joe biden can't respond to this in one particular way. there's a lot of reports kind of trickling out that this might already be happening. >> right. right. joe biden can't exactly say, you know, that's what we're doing in a kind of stage whisper. but, you know, the policy, it is very, very difficult to see this sort of bloodshed, to watch this front line documentary. what that underscored, which i think is a very important point, is something after 9/11 when people were talking...
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but on the other hand it will be up to a lot of the debates in the future, especially joe biden to get out there and say this is what paul ryan stands for. you cut a third out of medicaid, you're putting a lot of families and elderly people out on the street. that is not rhetoric. that is how bad it would be. you have to demonstrate that. you might say it's bigger than big bird. >> and let's remember that after this debate, mitt romney is still on the losing side politically of the medicare issue which the obama campaign knows and they've got a new ad about that now. let's watch that. >> victims. dependent. that's what mitt romney called 47% of americans, including people on medicare. and what about his plan for you? romney would replace guaranteed benefits with a voucher system. seniors could pay $6,000 more a year. a plan aarp says would undermine medicare. you're no victim. you earned your benefits. don't let mitt romney take them away. >> well, krystal, that's what happens with someone who says my job is not to care about those people. >> it's devastating. and as we've seen from ro
but on the other hand it will be up to a lot of the debates in the future, especially joe biden to get out there and say this is what paul ryan stands for. you cut a third out of medicaid, you're putting a lot of families and elderly people out on the street. that is not rhetoric. that is how bad it would be. you have to demonstrate that. you might say it's bigger than big bird. >> and let's remember that after this debate, mitt romney is still on the losing side politically of the...
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>> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton, pennsylvania. i'm from janesville, wisconsin. you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? >> i sure do. >> it's 10%. >> yeah. >> you know what it was the day you guys came in? 8.5%. that's how it's going all around america. >> you don't read the statistics. that's now how it's going. it's going down. >> this is his two-minute answer. >> did they come in and inherit a tough situation in absolutely. but we're going in the wrong direction. look at where we are. the economy is barely limping along. it's growing at 1.3%. that's slower than it grew last year and last year was slower than the year before. job growth in september was slower than it was in august and august was slower than it was in july. we're heading in the wrong direction. 23 million americans are struggling for work today. 15% of americans are living in poverty today. this is not what a real recovery looks like. we need real reforms for real recovery and that's exactly what mitt romney and i are proposing. it's a five-poin
>> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton, pennsylvania. i'm from janesville, wisconsin. you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? >> i sure do. >> it's 10%. >> yeah. >> you know what it was the day you guys came in? 8.5%. that's how it's going all around america. >> you don't read the statistics. that's now how it's going. it's going down. >> this is his two-minute answer. >> did they come in and inherit a tough...
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a joe biden with a governor is no joe i want to see. in my version biden plays it big and surgically, hazing the young kid from the minor leagues who doesn't know what it's like to perform in the big show. it goes something like this. >> relax. don't try to strike everybody out. strikeouts are boring. besides that, they're fascist. throw some ground balls. more democratic. >> what's this guy know anyway? he's so great how come he's been in the minors for ten years? if he's so hot how cam they want me instead of him? >> and another thing, you don't know [ bleep ], all right? you want to make it to the show, you'll listen to me. she wants you because she can boss you around, got it? relax, let's have some fun out here. this game is fun, okay? fun [ bleep ]. and don't hold the ball so hard, okay, it's an egg. hold it like an egg. >> who doesn't want to see joe "crash" biden tell ryan -- if he don't speak bull durham
a joe biden with a governor is no joe i want to see. in my version biden plays it big and surgically, hazing the young kid from the minor leagues who doesn't know what it's like to perform in the big show. it goes something like this. >> relax. don't try to strike everybody out. strikeouts are boring. besides that, they're fascist. throw some ground balls. more democratic. >> what's this guy know anyway? he's so great how come he's been in the minors for ten years? if he's so hot...
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thursday between joe biden and paul ryan voters will get a chance to hear what candidates have to say about a host of issues beyond budget, policy and health care. things like voting rights, women's rights, topics that were omitted last week between president obama and romney. the issue of sensible gun laws. the first presidential debate took place a short distance from aurora, colorado. a victim had a message for the candidates in an ad that airs during the debate. >> this past summer in a movie theater in colorado, i was shot. shot in the face and neck. but i was lucky. in the next four years, 48,000 americans won't be so lucky because they will be murdered with guns in the next president's term. enough to fill 200 theaters. when you watch the presidential debates, ask yourself, who has a plan to stop gun violence? let's demand a plan. it didn't get an area. joining us is comedian chris. john warner and rebecca, contributor to the magazine. i feel of two minds about the debate. focus is good. depth is good. i was appreciative they allowed depth on the issues they talked about, but f
thursday between joe biden and paul ryan voters will get a chance to hear what candidates have to say about a host of issues beyond budget, policy and health care. things like voting rights, women's rights, topics that were omitted last week between president obama and romney. the issue of sensible gun laws. the first presidential debate took place a short distance from aurora, colorado. a victim had a message for the candidates in an ad that airs during the debate. >> this past summer in...
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joe mcknight ran back a 100 yard kickoff return for a touchdown. new york had a chance to take the lee late in the fourth quarter. mark sanchez couldn't pull it off. it was picked off by jackson with two minutes left to play. >>> this is sad news coming from the nfl, alex karras, well known for that roll as the lovable father in the '80s sitcom webster, news is out that he is suffering from kidney failure and has only been given a few days to live. the 77-year-old has been suffering from dementia in recent years and is part of that mass concussion lawsuit involving more than 3,000 players that is filed against the nfl. >>> to baseball, cardinals bashed the nationals knotting their series at one. carlos beltran hit that last two of his teams four homers. >>> the orioles even it up with the yankees after a bases loaded two-run single by chris davis in the third put them up 2-1. baltimore tacked on a final run in the sixth with a mark republic reynolds single. they won 3-2. >>> in golf, tiger woods reportedly apologized to several of his ryder cup roo
joe mcknight ran back a 100 yard kickoff return for a touchdown. new york had a chance to take the lee late in the fourth quarter. mark sanchez couldn't pull it off. it was picked off by jackson with two minutes left to play. >>> this is sad news coming from the nfl, alex karras, well known for that roll as the lovable father in the '80s sitcom webster, news is out that he is suffering from kidney failure and has only been given a few days to live. the 77-year-old has been suffering...
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joe biden? >> that's the question and it goes to something you said earlier in the show, which is a lot of the answers that are tough and scary when you look at the real repercussions of the ryan budget, a lot of the answers are ideas that basically this campaign wants to push until after the election. i'm a little reminded of the villain in the new "batman" who says now is not the time for fear. that comes later. and that's the problem, and i think you're going to see joe biden come out and explain exactly what it means to cut a third out of medicaid, which is for elderly middle class families and, by the way, a lot of what medicaid goes to is families who have a child with disabilities and who wouldn't be near the poverty line but for that child. you want to cut that program? we have to talk about what that means for american families. >> but i think the problem is that ryan is smart. he's articulate. he's very fluent with numbers, and there's a chance that if biden goes after him too hard, th
joe biden? >> that's the question and it goes to something you said earlier in the show, which is a lot of the answers that are tough and scary when you look at the real repercussions of the ryan budget, a lot of the answers are ideas that basically this campaign wants to push until after the election. i'm a little reminded of the villain in the new "batman" who says now is not the time for fear. that comes later. and that's the problem, and i think you're going to see joe biden...
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how do you think he's going to fare against joe biden? he's a lot younger, doesn't have as much debate experience. >> that's not true. they're both members of congress. they have a lot of debate -- that's what you do in congress whether it's in committee or on the floor. i think they will both be more skilled, frankly, than either of the two presidential candidates who did not have that kind of a background. so i'm not sure that they don't know how to do it. >> here's the difference, though, with all due respect. there's a big difference. we have 67 million people watching on wednesday night. we're going to have millions of people watching certainly on thursday night. that's a lot different than watching c-span coverage in congress of the floor, you know? >> but you don't stand behind a podium and see 68 million people. you stand behind the podium and see who's in the hall and the guy standing next to you. i don't think that matters at all. >> it is a little bit different in the sense that generally debate on the floor is a much more civi
how do you think he's going to fare against joe biden? he's a lot younger, doesn't have as much debate experience. >> that's not true. they're both members of congress. they have a lot of debate -- that's what you do in congress whether it's in committee or on the floor. i think they will both be more skilled, frankly, than either of the two presidential candidates who did not have that kind of a background. so i'm not sure that they don't know how to do it. >> here's the...
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but joe biden is joe biden and president obama is president obama. two different types of personalities. two different approaches, two different rhetorical styles. let's see if the base is as happy with president obama on wednesday morning as they were with joe biden yesterday morning. >> yeah. mike, can you tell us a little more about this new obama campaign tv ad? >> well, i think this is a case of going back to the formula that had helped build that lead in the polls prior to that first debate. you know, the so-called likability gap. the idea that mitt romney is out of touch with the average american. going back to this issue of his taxes not only has he not released his tax returns, as many presidential candidates have in the past, of course, but he's effectively paid a 14% rate on his taxes, and that is something that is a lower rate paid on investment income. let's have a listen to a little bit of that ad. >> you've paid 14% in federal taxes. that's the capital gains rate. is that fair to the guy who makes $50,000 and paid a higher rate than yo
but joe biden is joe biden and president obama is president obama. two different types of personalities. two different approaches, two different rhetorical styles. let's see if the base is as happy with president obama on wednesday morning as they were with joe biden yesterday morning. >> yeah. mike, can you tell us a little more about this new obama campaign tv ad? >> well, i think this is a case of going back to the formula that had helped build that lead in the polls prior to...
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welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle, political editor and white house correspondent for "the huffington post," sam stein. and managing editor of "fortune," andy serwer. >> andy, good to see you. how did columbia do this weekend? >> it was another "w." lehigh, i believe. >> lehigh. >> went out to pennsylvania and lost theootball game. >> the columbia, what are you guys? >> lions. >> lions, exactly. of course, i knew that. ivy league mascots. hey, mika. >> yeah. >> something weird's happening in this campaign. you know, sometimes you'll have an event, and as the event goes by, you'll just sort of count the days and wait for the buzz to dissipate, because it always does because we get so easily distracted. we're talking this weekend and you're hearing it and i'm hearing it, this terrible debate performance, the impact seems to keep growing and growing. it's like turning now into an urban legend. by the middle of next week, people will say barack obama can't walk down
welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle, political editor and white house correspondent for "the huffington post," sam stein. and managing editor of "fortune," andy serwer. >> andy, good to see you. how did columbia do this weekend? >> it was another "w." lehigh, i believe. >> lehigh. >> went out to pennsylvania and lost theootball game. >> the columbia, what are you guys? >>...